mrblue wrote:They did not get permission to use my pictures either but it's not the first time this has happened.
Totally off topic, but had they asked, would you have let them? Considering that they didn't ask, how do you feel about it?
A mate has had a similar situation of late, with a picture of his being used on an online vendors website. I would start watermarking my images mate.
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mrblue wrote:A mate has had a similar situation of late, with a picture of his being used on an online vendors website. I would start watermarking my images mate.
That's a good point Ben, I should start watermarking them. I should have done it before but I don't really like watermarks obscuring my pics and don't wont to seem like I am promoting myself or my business by posting on here. Maybe I should watermark them with MOFIB, as the main reason I post on here is to promote MOFIB?
mrblue wrote:It is interesting to see my fish being considered news worthy, even on a fishy webpage but on the other hand it would have been nice to be asked permission. What LargeAngels has pointed out leaves me a bit disgruntled though. The fact they are claiming copyright on my pictures and haven't just linked them from MOFIB or photobucket is a bit rude.
On the subject of watermarking, what I did with my thousands of online orchid images was to add a 'footer'. Basically, clearly state that it's mine, but not obscure the photo. What did people do? They cropped off the footer Wink
I think I speak for everyone here when I say that MOFIB is 100% commercial friendly. Afterall, I got motivated to start it when I was a) accused of being a commercial seller (which I'm not) and b) wasn't allowed to sell my fish being a hobbyist breeder while at the same time hobbyist (and questionably commercial) coral sellers did not receive the same scruitiny. Which lead to the realization that if we take a very generic view of what defines "commercial", we realize that EVERY fish / invert breeder is going to have to sell progeny at some point. If selling more than one of something makes you commercial, then I think we're all commercial, every last one of us.
So to that end, I say PROMOTE your business as much as you want. If you have a website, put it in your profile info. Don't hesitate to watermark your images "MrBlueAquatics" or whatever you might call your fish breeding operation. We have that entire free marketplace for ANY user to use to promote the fish they sell as well. MOFIB = Commercial Friendly, because we're ALL commercial at some level!
I have a feeling that perhaps they just didn't think about it. I did notice that they did include a link to YOUR profile here, as well as a link to the general forum, saying "Here is a photo posted by Ryan on MOFIB, showing off his captive raised juvenile Mcculloch’s Clowns." So they aren't really claiming copyright over your image parsay, they are citing it as a reference. I don't think they coudl claim "fair use" of the image however (i.e. FAMA is going to be paying royalties / licensing fees for every image they use in the forthcoming MOFIB article).
mrblue wrote:It's interesting you say this Matt. I was contacted by Eric from glassbox who was very apologetic about the whole thing and explained that they were not claiming copyright and the linking they did to MOFIB and my profile was a way of crediting me and MOFIB. He had just had a hard time joining MOFIB and without a membership had a hard time contacting me. I have given him permission to use my images so in this case everything worked out.
It also possible that the general misuse of our pictures might result in breeders being more reluctant to share such images, which at the end of the day would leave all of us and the hobby poorer for it.
I should probably add a footer at least to my pics but from what you have said it barely seems worth the trouble. It would almost be funny if it wasn't such a serious matter.
Just so everyone knows, the rules with photos are: Ask nicely first, wait for a reply from the photographer, then print out and hang (or turn into a desktop background or whatever). I've never, ever had anyone turn me down if I ask nicely to use their photos. But it is the photographer's right to do so if they wish. And a lot of people get really peeved if you don't ask first.
The copyright law is really confusing. The law states that the photographer owns the copyright to their photos and has the right to control how their photos are used. Just because they post them here doesn't give anyone the right to print them and use them for other purposes unless the photographer says it's okay.
I don't want to get into a situation where photographers decide to stop posting their photos here because this turns into a place where people don't respect the artist and their work. So remember, ask first and respect the photographer's decision, whatever it may be.
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<p>Here is a photo posted by <a href="http://www.marinebreeder.org/phpbb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=155" target="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Ryan</span></strong></a> on a href="http://www.marinebreeder.org/phpbb/" ]arget="_blank"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">MOFIB,</span></strong></a> showing off his captive raised juvenile Mcculloch’s Clowns. I’d
fishguttz wrote:Looks like they are stealing MOFIB bandwith. go to page and view html source. example below. or did you give them permission.
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