Breeding L.amboinensis

Postby blacksnail » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:43 am

its cleaner shrimp right? what do they eat in the wild?
ich?

so...

has anyone tried feeding them a ich infested fish?

i understand that a large fish would eat them, but a small fish after 40 some days? covered in ich? to sick to eat? most pet stores will have one, and im sure the will give it to you cheep considdering its doomed.

its my experence that even agresive shrimp eaters like puffers and triggers dont usualy eat cleaner shrimp if well fed.

perhaps the babys get the same treatment?
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Postby Luis A M » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:20 pm

New Run
Starting a new run,rather late in the year. :roll:
Will follow the usual protocol,except that bbs will be given AM and Otohime PM.
Lotsof larvae hatched last night,13 days post molting.
And my bs doesn´t hatch at 24hr,so I am giving 48 hr which is a blend of Instar 1 and 2. (nauplii and metanauplii). :roll:
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Postby "Umm, fish?" » Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:06 pm

Good luck, Luis! You are one of the most persistent people I know. :)
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Postby Luis A M » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:25 pm

"Umm, fish?" wrote:Good luck, Luis! You are one of the most persistent people I know. :)

You must be persistent to take care every day during five months for mosquito like bugs that might die at last. :lol:
Anyway,Z2 at 4 days.
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Postby "Umm, fish?" » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:46 pm

Exactly! :)
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Postby Luis A M » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:22 am

Z3 at 8 days.They keep developing like a clockwork;one new stage every 4 days. 8)
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Postby Luis A M » Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:36 pm

Z4 at 12 days.Larger larvae,still plenty of them.A new batch is expected tomorrow :roll:
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Postby Luis A M » Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:40 am

2nd run started.Lots of larvae hatched not in 13 but in 14th day post molt.
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Postby Amie » Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:07 am

Luis,
I assume you collect them at night without a trap? Do you feed them bbs right away?
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Postby kazanz » Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:44 pm

Hi everybody

I'm trying to raise L.amboinensis too. My larval will be hatch on Jul 07 so i would like to share my story.

Hope the successful will comes !!!

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Postby Luis A M » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:54 am

Amie wrote:Luis,
I assume you collect them at night without a trap? Do you feed them bbs right away?

Right,I siphon them under a light.They are fed the following day.
Z5 at day 16 8)
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Postby FuEl » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:11 am

Hi Luis,

Are you able to get hold of Thalassiosira weissflogii? http://www.reed-mariculture.com/microalgae/tw.asp

I've always wanted to try this on L. amboinensis but have yet to lay my hands on this algae.
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Postby Luis A M » Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:23 pm

FuEl wrote:Hi Luis,

Are you able to get hold of Thalassiosira weissflogii? http://www.reed-mariculture.com/microalgae/tw.asp

I've always wanted to try this on L. amboinensis but have yet to lay my hands on this algae.

No,Junkai,it´s hard for me to get that stuff here.
But I´m pretty happy with my current food (bbs+Oto).
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Postby Luis A M » Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:20 am

Larvae from the other member of the pair hatched today and were added to Run#2 8)
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Postby Luis A M » Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:45 pm

Something went very bad :roll:
Hydroids showed and larvae dissapeared massively in both runs.While I know very well this problem,it had never been so drastic,usually a % of larvae die at molt time.
I rescued one of the larger larvae into a clean tank.May be I get more.
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Postby Luis A M » Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:06 pm

Four rescued.And it seems that´s it :(
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Postby Luis A M » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:35 pm

all gone :( Things were worse than ever. :?
A 3rd run was started today.Lots of larvae.
I had a two days window to hydroid sterilize the system among runs but I was too busy to do it. :roll:
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Postby Luis A M » Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:39 am

Z2 day 4 This will be batch A
A new batch B hatched.Also lots of larvae.
This time I will not give Otohime till Z4.
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Postby Amie » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:50 am

Luis A M wrote:Z2 day 4 This will be batch A
A new batch B hatched.Also lots of larvae.
This time I will not give Otohime till Z4.


Does that mean you only feed nauplii?
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Postby Luis A M » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:27 pm

Amie wrote:Does that mean you only feed nauplii?

Right,I won´t mess with other food while the larvae are so small.
A reached Z3 at day 8.There are lots of larvae all nice and pink coloured. 8)
On the other hand,B goes very bad.Very few remaining,still Z1 at day 4 and looking weak and pale.
I wonder how two sibling batches kept under the same conditions could fare so different.The only thing is that A was collected with parent´s water while B was strained thru 400 mic mesh and resuspended in larval system´s water.
Yet I did it before without a problem... :roll:
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Postby Luis A M » Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:44 pm

Batch B vanished. :( Checked the tank and couldn´t even find bodies.But didn´t find hydroids either :?
There were some harps,some bbs,but surprisingly there were lots of the calanoid P.pelagicus.Strong and well fed,naups,adults, including mating pairs.How did they come,what they were feeding on and what relationship,if any, they had with the zoea dissapearance remains a mistery... :roll:
On the bright side,the other batch keeps in very good shape 8) .Lots of Z4 at 12 days.I will start with Otohime tomorrow.
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Postby Amie » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:13 pm

That's really interesting. They had to have already been in the previous larval tank water, right?

Would you ever consider putting a breeding pair of l.amboinesis into a brand new nano tank without live rock or sand and just use an HOB filter?
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Postby Luis A M » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:22 am

Amie wrote:That's really interesting. They had to have already been in the previous larval tank water, right?

Would you ever consider putting a breeding pair of l.amboinesis into a brand new nano tank without live rock or sand and just use an HOB filter?

Sure they were in the system,but they had to cross the filter floss and the UV to get to the tank!
And what were they feeding on,bbs? :?
I did something like that in the beginning,with a sponge filter.Larvae can´t negotiate a HOB filter.
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Postby Amie » Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:52 pm

And what were they feeding on,bbs? :?

That's a good question. Or shrimp larvae dead or alive?

[quote
I did something like that in the beginning,with a sponge filter.Larvae can´t negotiate a HOB filter.[/quote]

I didn't mean to say that you put the larvae in a brand new nano. I was asking if you would be willing to put a breeding pair into a brand new clean nano tank that doesn't have any live rock or sand or any possible way for hydroids to be introduced. This way you would be eliminating the possiblility of the hydroids coming from any other place except the brine shrimp. Then put the larvae into a clean larval system when they are released.

It's nice to know you tried a sponge filter, I'll cross that one off my list.
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Postby Luis A M » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:44 pm

OK Amie I see your point now.
Unfortunately in a fish room you can never rule out contamination.Pods,rots,bs,even fish larvae show in places where they shouldn´t be!
And sponge filters work fine.See in the sticky that I could raise some half grown larvae in tanks so equipped.
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