"Dalmatian" Clowns?

"Dalmatian" Clowns?

Postby jeff@zina.com » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:40 pm

Saw a "Dalmatian" clown fish the other day, looked like a spotted version of an extreme Picasso or Snocasso. Anyone know anything about them? Might have been from SA originally, but don't see them mentioned anywhere.

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Postby Suzy » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:45 pm

I hope you got a photo?
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Postby EasterEggs » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:57 pm

I heard mention of this type before, but have never seen a photo or any sort of proof of where they came from or that they actually exist. I'm assuming this wasn't a "Spotcinctus" clown, right?
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Postby jeff@zina.com » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:14 pm

Definitely not spotcinctus. If they have one later this week I'll get a shot of it. Looks like a platinum with black spots as much as anything.

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Postby EasterEggs » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:23 pm

That sounds rather cool!
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Postby rortreefer » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:51 am

I would love to see some pics of them!
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Postby cannon77 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:56 pm

Last time I heard of this type of coloration was in a post on another forum. A person I wont name that works for one of the "Big" breeding outfits, claimed to have a "polk-a-dot" clownfish. After a little more reading, it was hosting Zoas and was getting stung which caused the spotting all over the poor clown. Needless to say I got pissed at the tard nugget for it and he should of known better!!
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Postby Suzy » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:47 am

That is really sad. But, your last sentence made me LOL!
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Postby jeff@zina.com » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:51 pm

This one isn't a case of getting stung by corals, it's a color anomaly. Just not sure if it's a stable line or a freak specimen. I'll find out more Saturday.

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Postby cannon77 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:45 pm

Thats good, it really pisses me off when someone has a suffering animal and tries to pass it off as something "cool & different" Makes me wanna break their leg and stroll them around with it flopping in the air and tell people to look at my rare amazing friend.......dont mind the screaming cries of pain, what that? no thats supposed to be like that, its not his femur popping out it is a special gene he has......oh that? its just a little blood, he is going through meta and will be fine in a day or two!!
Seriously though, If it is a stable strain, please get us some info. We are always looking to add to the breeding program and see if you can find a picture dang it, haha!
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Postby Suzy » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:26 pm

Yes! Snap a photo, if that android phone can!
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Postby jeff@zina.com » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:48 pm

Found out they're $325 each when they can get them. They're also called Moo Clowns. The breeder should have some more soon, but not sure who the breeder is.

Rich: Are you doing Dalmatian/Moo Clowns? :)

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Postby jeff@zina.com » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:10 pm

Here's a picture...

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Postby Suzy » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:29 pm

They are funky.....
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Postby cannon77 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:50 pm

Suzy, back off the ANDROID, I love mine <3 LOL!
Jeff, let me know what you find out, wouldnt mind looking into a pair of these if I can get them with more spots?
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Postby EasterEggs » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:49 pm

They really just look like "grade b" platinums to me. I could see how someone might try to market them though. :)
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Postby jeff@zina.com » Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:23 am

I think the key is whether the pattern is reproducible or not. I'm going to try to track down the breeder if possible.

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Postby Suzy » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:12 am

Awww, I am sure your android is adequate.....I asked Siri how cool the android is, she said it isn't. I am sure she is completely unbiased! :lol:


GUys, does anyone else feel a bit...I can't think of the right word...weird? turned off? reluctant? dislike?


..by these designer fish?
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Postby jeff@zina.com » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:30 am

I bred fresh water angels for years (decades actually) and have watched as new strains get developed, marketed and eventually become common. Hobbyists have come up with pretty accurate genetic indicators for these fish through trial and error, and I'm kind of starting to see the same from designer clowns.

Right now, they're commercially viable. They are the meat and potatoes for many breeders, providing the financing for work with less profitable endeavors, like working with pelagic spawners. When the market is saturated, they'll come down in price and profitability and be commonplace. Heck, Petco has designer clowns in some stores.

I find them interesting. Partly from a scientific point of view, partly from just liking the patterns. None of these are manipulated by other than selective breeding, so you could potentially find any of these mutations in the wild.

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Postby Suzy » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:38 pm

Yes, that makes sense.

And, we would not have cute fuzzy cocker spaniels now if this hadnt happened to the wild wolf population millenniums ago.
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Postby jeff@zina.com » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:55 pm

Or dachsunds to help us fight the honey badgers... :)

On a more MOFIBBY note, is there a master list of clownfish variations? Should I start one?

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Postby Suzy » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:03 pm

Yes! There was a sweet write up in Coral mag a few issues ago.
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Postby rrcg50 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:19 pm

jeff@zina.com wrote:Found out they're $325 each when they can get them. They're also called Moo Clowns. The breeder should have some more soon, but not sure who the breeder is.

Rich: Are you doing Dalmatian/Moo Clowns? :)

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Just another hot production, they are able to be reproduced but it seems I only get a few per hatch. Alphacorals got a few along with some other friends.
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Postby jeff@zina.com » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:41 pm

I figured it was you. This one was at Eco Reef in Venice. :)

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Postby rrcg50 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:17 pm

Chet and Donna are friends of mine
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