Salarias ramosus breeding help

Salarias ramosus breeding help

Postby gsellers1245 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:31 pm

just recently today i noticed my starry blennies laid eggs on the back wall of my tank. Thinking about raising them but have no clue as to where to go about finding the information. is it the same as any other salarias species....it is really hard to tell them apart even by looking at the anal fins.
how long til the eggs hatch?
are the babies phototrophic?
first foods....phyto/rotifers/artemia/otohime b1??
i just need help pointing me in the right direction. So far i have found no google information and the other information is conflicting. thanks in advance


in this pic they are behind the tail
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back wall in the middle
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Postby mpedersen » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:47 pm

Look into the Lawnmower Blenny, Salarias fasciatus. I don't have time to provide research personally, but I know that their sexing and reproductive behaviors were discussed in a recent issue of Coral Magazine.
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Postby gsellers1245 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:57 pm

im picking that up this weekend. i was reading through it vaguely. Thanks for the info
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Postby mpedersen » Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:55 am

So you'll love this...turns out I have the issue sitting RIGHT ON MY DESK, just to my left. It's probably been there for a couple months because I *knew* it had info I needed to cite / post here ;)

So, the crucial details - "tiny larvae", in the thousands, they hach after 6-7 days. That's for S. fasciatus. No mention of being positively phototrophic. Doesn't even mention what time of day they hatch. The article is by Ellen Thaler, pages 40 to 43.

I'd start planning for rotifers and phyto now. Copepod nauplii certainly won't hurt either.
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Postby gsellers1245 » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:23 am

It seemed odd they laid the eggs before 5pm only 4 hours after my lights turned on and the temp was roughly 83 degrees. Ill keep an eye out thanks again
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Postby Amphibious » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:39 am

Congrats!!! Best of luck with them.
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Postby gsellers1245 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:03 am

ok i think last batch hatched in 8 days...i currently have a new batch of eggs here is what they look like:
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and a close up of the last batch
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Postby gsellers1245 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:04 am

does anyone know if blennies are phototrophic?
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Postby Luis A M » Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:27 pm

Yes,they are.But try to put some removable thing for next time,will make it easier :wink:
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Postby gsellers1245 » Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:02 pm

i have them in my starphire solana....they laid the eggs at the very very back left corner...i have to get some tile cut so they will lay on it. Thanks a bunch. :D
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Re: Salarias ramosus breeding help

Postby gsellers1245 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:52 pm

quick update:

I have had some months to compile data, Here is what i have learned.

1. eggs hatch on the 8th night
2. when the pair lays eggs it really is random. They have laid eggs at 2pm, and they have laid at 8pm
3. These guys are tiny tiny tiny when hatched out
4. temperature hasnt played a role on the hatching night. temp range was from 80-84 and every batch hatched on the 8th night

here is my babies at 13 hours old. This is just one corner of the tank. There is roughly 3000+ fry in the tank right now

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Re: Salarias ramosus breeding help

Postby gsellers1245 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:54 pm

a 10 minute old blenny fry
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Re: Salarias ramosus breeding help

Postby gsellers1245 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:55 pm

blenny eggs 2 batches ago
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Re: Salarias ramosus breeding help

Postby Midnight Angel » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:58 pm

COOL :!: Can't wait to see more.


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Re: Salarias ramosus breeding help

Postby gsellers1245 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:22 pm

here is 21 hour old blennies
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Re: Salarias ramosus breeding help

Postby damer » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:08 am

very good,

have you actually raised any?
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Re: Salarias ramosus breeding help

Postby gsellers1245 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:44 am

nope, i have been trying, but only really attempted about 5 batches. The rest of the time was moving them around to a new tank. Then i moved to a new house etc...etc...
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Re: Salarias ramosus breeding help

Postby FuEl » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:10 pm

The incubation period reminds me of clownfish eggs. I think these guys hatch rather large? They look very much like the size of newly hatched clownfish so maybe the standard clownfish protocol might work? :idea:
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Re: Salarias ramosus breeding help

Postby Midnight Angel » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:35 pm

They look bigger than all the goby larvae I've seen...........that is for sure.


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Re: Salarias ramosus breeding help

Postby gsellers1245 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:25 pm

they are smaller than the clownfish, but much longer. I can not raise these guys. My best was 7 days and they didnt seem to grow at all. I am using l strain rotifers co culturing in the tank. rigid airline tubing enough to have a horizontal movement across the tank so they dont get bunched up. Rotifer count is roughly 30/ml. I dont know what else to do except small strain rotifers
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Re: Salarias ramosus breeding help

Postby FuEl » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:31 pm

The rotifers are probably too dense. Too many rotifers inhibit feeding response. Try halving the density.
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Re: Salarias ramosus breeding help

Postby gsellers1245 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:08 pm

i have tried a small density on previous batches and still the same
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Re: Salarias ramosus breeding help

Postby gsellers1245 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:04 am

here is the nest before hatching tonight now just trying to get my hands on Brachionus rotundiformis for the next batch as well as finding a round culture vessel as i have been suggested it works alot better
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Re: Salarias ramosus breeding help

Postby r33fking » Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:24 am

any thng new?
ive got ahatch in 6 days . brts and s strian rots . we will see how it goes
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Re: Salarias ramosus breeding help

Postby gsellers1245 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:11 pm

i havent been trying lately. I have been super busy working and in my spare time i either sleep or go fishing.
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